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Summer conference workshops

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Paul Forsyth

Thursday 18 March 2004 5:20:47 am

How many people going to this years summer conference would be interested in attending workshops on the Saturday? Do you have suggestions regarding what the workshops should cover?

Suggestions so far include:

- Search engines
- Online editors
- Data import/export

eZ crew, do you have plans of your own for the workshops?

Paul

Trond Åge Kvalø

Thursday 18 March 2004 6:02:10 am

I know the eZ crew is working hard at this, but I think maybe a workshop on documentation could be interesting. I'm not familiar with how workshops....uhmmm works, as I've never attended one.

But since anyone can contribute to the documentation, a "HOW-TO-WRITE-GOOD-DOCUMENTATION-WORKSHOP" wouldn't be so bad, or what? And perhaps suggestions on improving the existing documentation might be nice even for the eZ crew.

And just to make sure: No, I'm not accusing anyone at eZ for writing bad docs :-)

just my humble sugestions

trondåge

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Bård Farstad

Friday 19 March 2004 12:18:13 am

Paul and Trond,

these are all good suggestions for workshops. We are currently looking for feedback on the workshops we would like to have the workshop that the community are interested in. We will make a shcedule for the saturday based on your feedback when we're closer to the summer conference.

Just keep the suggestions comming ;)

--bård

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Trond Åge Kvalø

Wednesday 24 March 2004 8:58:38 am

How about "Planning and laying out an eZ site".

I guess there are heaps of people out there who, just like me, has had a few aha-moments during developing eZ sites. And said "next time I'll do this instead."

If we could collect these moments and present them for other users, that could be quite a good resource to.

What workshops did you have last year?

trondåge

trondåge

Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 24 March 2004 9:17:44 am

"E-commerece and the ez shop module" from the other shop thread.

paul

Björn Dieding@xrow.de

Monday 29 March 2004 5:11:16 am

I have 2 suggestions for workshops

- Impoving a developpers workspace (IDE,debugging,etc)
- Clustering, High avialibilty

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Tony Wood

Monday 29 March 2004 10:02:25 am

Björn,

I'll second the clustering and HA workshop.

Tony

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Tony Wood

Saturday 03 April 2004 2:40:30 am

I would like to see a workshop on standards and complience. This would break apart eZ publish and look at the elements that can follow standards for storage or have middleware written so they can communicate with other software that follow the standard.
A good start is RSS, SOAP and LDAP but I would like to explore over areas where we can use standard to increase interopability.

A few ideas would be for :
Contacts (vCard?)
Calendar (iCalender?)
Document (OpenOffice XML?)

Maybe looking at links to groupware such as MS Exchange or OpenGroupware?

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Trond Åge Kvalø

Friday 16 April 2004 5:45:19 am

Just a small add-on to Tony's post.

The SCORM standard by http://www.adlnet.org/ is also a significant standard when creating e-learning management systems. It could also be incorporated in a standard compliance workshop.

trondåge

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Bård Farstad

Wednesday 21 April 2004 12:29:00 am

Some topics I recommend we discuss:
- Performance improvements
* Pure HTML caching for serving HTML pages
* Reducing general overhead, e.g. store all .ini configuration in shared memory or use SRM to handle this
* Optimization of code to reduce the number of objects (PHP) created and also SQL queries ( many un-needed SQL queries done in some cases )
* Reduce the disk I/O to get better scalability
* Improve tree algorithm to get better scalability in number of objects/nodes
- Improved administration interface
* Follow up with a discussion on our initial work done for 3.4, which will be implemented for 3.5.

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Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 21 April 2004 4:11:56 am

quite a number of items.

Bård, do you have an idea yet about the numbers of people wanting to participate with the workshops? Is there the possibility of surveying all attendees to find their views?

paul

Bård Farstad

Wednesday 21 April 2004 4:22:23 am

Paul, no I don't know this this number.

We will make a suggestion for topics for the saturday later, we should then post this in these forums so we can discuss this. But I think that we alreay have enough topics, it depends on how deep we want to go.

ps: I actually only had two points/topics whic I suggested in the previous post. Performance and Admin interface. Just added some notes on things that definetly can be done in this area, by no means a complete list. More some details to clearify the level of the discussion.

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Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 21 April 2004 4:28:22 am

Yip, i saw that Bård. I was refering to the number of items in the whole thread so far.

I agree on having enough. I don't think we have enough time to cover each topic thorougly enough - the conference isn't long enough :)

paul

Björn Dieding@xrow.de

Wednesday 21 April 2004 5:44:46 am

@Bard

We can group some of the items to topics like Performance, Clustering, HA
We can discuss issues Performance, Clustering, HA in a more general way and then go over each single item.
That way we all could sit together and do some brain storming

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Bård Farstad

Wednesday 21 April 2004 6:36:27 am

Björn, sure. That's probably how we should organize this day. Clustering, HA and performance should be discussed in the same session.

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Paul Borgermans

Friday 21 May 2004 6:27:43 am

I have a request for another workshop subject by one of the core developers: explain the internal ez publish design principles and discussing how this could be changed in the future for pluggin in our extensions in the core functionality. New module writing is relatively clear now as long as we are not digging too deep. Don't understand me wrong: I'm not sociciting a free tutorial, but me and our developers here (and outside) really have difficulties when it comes to things other than lightweight stuff and integration with other applications. This may result in ideas for (near) future developments or changes to the kernel and more synergy between the ez core and outside developers.

In this respect I also have concerns on the focus of future ez development. Some things like collaboration were announced, but are dropped from the radar now. The same with workflows. As these things are generally tied to the core and development is not advancing in this area, we need to be able to do it ourselves or integrate third party solutions with eZp

I hope eZ publish grows along the initial projectd path, which also includes enterprise level features. This means "business processes" should be able to map into an ez publish equivalent (collaboration, workflow, ...). It still lacks this although eZ publish is very capable in mapping structured information in structred containers. But thats the end result only ...

We need more

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Paul Forsyth

Thursday 27 May 2004 2:40:29 am

eZ crew, are you close to an agenda for the conference workshops next week?

It would be nice to know some plans to allow us to prepare.

paul

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Jan Borsodi

Friday 28 May 2004 5:56:38 am

These are the topics we will handle during the workshop, topics in one session will be done in parallel to keep up with the time we have available.
The time on each topic will be around two hours.

I've also added some possible sub-topics that can be discussed.

Session 1:
- Search engines
* Improved internationalization support
* Algorithms
* Multiple search plugins, eg. use MySQL full text search

- E-commerce and the ez shop module
* Payment gateways
* Improved discount handling
* Improved VAT handling

Session 2:
- Performance improvements
* Pure HTML caching for serving HTML pages
* Reducing general overhead, e.g. store all .ini configuration in shared memory or use SRM to handle this
* Optimization of code to reduce the number of objects (PHP) created and also SQL queries ( many un-needed SQL queries done in some cases )
* Reduce the disk I/O to get better scalability
* Improve tree algorithm to get better scalability in number of objects/nodes
* Clustering, High avialibilty

- Usability
* Follow up with a discussion on our initial work done for 3.4 (admin interface project), which will be implemented for 3.5.
* Online editors

- Future ezpublish development
* Documentation
* New features
* Community
Note: Will be discussed during the Community discussion at 10:00 on saturday.

Also if we have time left we can also dicuss these topics.

- Data import/export
* Continue work on the new export/import in 3.4
* Standards and compliance (vCard, iCalendar, OpenOffice)
- Planning and laying out an ezpublish site
* Gather developer experiences
- Impoving a developers workspace
* IDE
* Debugging
- Explain design principles

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Paul Forsyth

Tuesday 01 June 2004 8:02:53 am

Will all workshops be facilitated by eZ staff? Do you have others from outside eZ running any?

paul

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Björn Dieding@xrow.de

Wednesday 02 June 2004 2:03:51 pm

- E-commerce and the ez shop module

There could be one interesting item to look at in terms of e-commerce & law.

Some countries have some e-commerce/trade laws so that standard shopping carts no longer go along with the law.

This topic might difficult to handle, because not every coder is a lawyer too.

bjoern

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