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Oliver Frommel	Wednesday 12 September 2007 3:02:06 am Hi, while I appreciate the clear structure of the eZpublish system and the fact that it enforces a clear structure on your own web development, I sometimes wish it'd allow for some more quick and dirty solutions. For instance I had to expose a single attribute of an object to be accessible over the web. It is supposed to be a numeric value with no HTML markup. It took me some time to make this possible, because I had to figure out how override the standard templating system. Overriding the node template does not work because the pagelayout template adds its own markup. Overriding the pagelayout I had to find a way to access the node data. It worked in the end but it would have been easier to just disable the whole template system at this point. Is something like this possible? Maybe in an extension? I have been using Zope in the past, and while I don't want to compare both systems in detail, Zope offers some very simple solutions for simple tasks. For instance you can just use the operator <dtml-var> to output values of the current context (that might be an object or a directory etc). With another expression I can iterate over objects and create a simple CSV export in two lines: <dtml-in addresses> <dtml-var firstname>;<dtml-var surname>;<dtml-var zip>;<dtml-var city> </dtml-in> I know how I can do something like this in eZ templates but then I am tied to the template engine again. Is there a way to make things like this possible in eZ? Or maybe I am just stuck in some non-eZ way of thinking. Best Oliver
Peter Putzer	Wednesday 12 September 2007 5:35:15 am You can use layout/set for this. For example, my RSS feeds are generated by the URL <site_access>/layout/set/rss/content/view/rss/<node_id>. Of course these use some markup, but it's completely customized by the pagelayout and view mode (both called "rss" in this example). Using the URL translator, you have complete control over your output. Accessible website starting from eZ publish 3.0 (currently: 4.1.0): http://pluspunkt.at

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Wednesday 12 September 2007 3:02:06 am

Hi,

while I appreciate the clear structure of the eZpublish system and the fact that it enforces a clear structure on your own web development, I sometimes wish it'd allow for some more quick and dirty solutions.

For instance I had to expose a single attribute of an object to be accessible over the web. It is supposed to be a numeric value with no HTML markup. It took me some time to make this possible, because I had to figure out how override the standard templating system. Overriding the node template does not work because the pagelayout template adds its own markup. Overriding the pagelayout I had to find a way to access the node data. It worked in the end but it would have been easier to just disable the whole template system at this point. Is something like this possible? Maybe in an extension?

I have been using Zope in the past, and while I don't want to compare both systems in detail, Zope offers some very simple solutions for simple tasks. For instance you can just use the operator <dtml-var> to output values of the current context (that might be an object or a directory etc). With another expression I can iterate over objects and create a simple CSV export in two lines:

<dtml-in addresses>
<dtml-var firstname>;<dtml-var surname>;<dtml-var zip>;<dtml-var city>
</dtml-in>

I know how I can do something like this in eZ templates but then I am tied to the template engine again. Is there a way to make things like this possible in eZ? Or maybe I am just stuck in some non-eZ way of thinking.

Best
Oliver

Peter Putzer

Wednesday 12 September 2007 5:35:15 am

You can use layout/set for this.

For example, my RSS feeds are generated by the URL <site_access>/layout/set/rss/content/view/rss/<node_id>. Of course these use some markup, but it's completely customized by the pagelayout and view mode (both called "rss" in this example). Using the URL translator, you have complete control over your output.

Accessible website starting from eZ publish 3.0 (currently: 4.1.0): http://pluspunkt.at

eZ debug

Timing:	Jan 18 2025 21:10:26
Script start
Timing:	Jan 18 2025 21:10:26
Module start 'layout'
Timing:	Jan 18 2025 21:10:26
Module start 'content'
Timing:	Jan 18 2025 21:10:27
Module end 'content'
Timing:	Jan 18 2025 21:10:27
Script end

Main resources:

Total runtime	0.7524 sec
Peak memory usage	4,096.0000 KB
Database Queries	54

Timing points:

Checkpoint	Start (sec)	Duration (sec)	Memory at start (KB)	Memory used (KB)
Script start	0.0000	0.0050	588.0313	152.6406
Module start 'layout'	0.0050	0.0023	740.6719	39.4766
Module start 'content'	0.0073	0.7437	780.1484	523.9297
Module end 'content'	0.7510	0.0014	1,304.0781	8.1250
Script end	0.7524		1,312.2031

Time accumulators:

Accumulator	Duration (sec)	Duration (%)	Count	Average (sec)
Ini load
Load cache	0.0030	0.3977	16	0.0002
Check MTime	0.0012	0.1650	16	0.0001
Mysql Total
Database connection	0.0007	0.0940	1	0.0007
Mysqli_queries	0.7109	94.4856	54	0.0132
Looping result	0.0005	0.0624	52	0.0000
Template Total	0.7273	96.7	2	0.3637
Template load	0.0019	0.2568	2	0.0010
Template processing	0.7253	96.4006	2	0.3627
Template load and register function	0.0002	0.0207	1	0.0002
states
state_id_array	0.0007	0.0889	1	0.0007
state_identifier_array	0.0009	0.1208	2	0.0005
Override
Cache load	0.0015	0.2035	17	0.0001
Sytem overhead
Fetch class attribute can translate value	0.0005	0.0657	2	0.0002
Fetch class attribute name	0.0008	0.1067	3	0.0003
XML
Image XML parsing	0.0006	0.0863	2	0.0003
class_abstraction
Instantiating content class attribute	0.0000	0.0009	3	0.0000
General
dbfile	0.0017	0.2223	16	0.0001
String conversion	0.0000	0.0008	4	0.0000
Note: percentages do not add up to 100% because some accumulators overlap

Templates used to render the page:

Usage	Requested template	Template	Template loaded
1	node/view/full.tpl	full/forum_topic.tpl	extension/sevenx/design/simple/override/templates/full/forum_topic.tpl
2	content/datatype/view/ezxmltext.tpl	<No override>	extension/community_design/design/suncana/templates/content/datatype/view/ezxmltext.tpl
4	content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/paragraph.tpl	<No override>	extension/ezwebin/design/ezwebin/templates/content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/paragraph.tpl
2	content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/line.tpl	<No override>	design/standard/templates/content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/line.tpl
1	content/datatype/view/ezimage.tpl	<No override>	extension/sevenx/design/simple/templates/content/datatype/view/ezimage.tpl
1	print_pagelayout.tpl	<No override>	extension/community/design/community/templates/print_pagelayout.tpl
Number of times templates used: 11 Number of unique templates used: 6

Time used to render debug report: 0.0002 secs