ezPublish - do you think that it is user friendly?

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phill burrows	Wednesday 19 May 2004 5:03:32 am Hi all I have been trialling ezPublish now for a couple of weeks and I am beginning to understand it, and I am very impressed with the product. I am looking for a cms of this type that I can hopefully sell to my clients. Now here is what I can not understand: I have been a web developer for about 6-7 years now and have a fairly good understanding of these types of things, HOWEVER, if I roll this out for a client to manage their website they are going to get lost within 10 seconds. From what I can see, ezPublish is not a system for a novice or a beginner of any sort. So, is it me? Am I missing something crucial here, or does ezPublish require an experienced person to support a website running this product? If this is the case does anyone have any simpler alternatives for a cms that the average client could learn and use?? regards mc
Kåre Køhler Høvik	Wednesday 19 May 2004 6:40:38 am Hi We know the admin interface in eZ publish can have a steep learning curve, and we're working on the problem. For the 3.5 release we're going to focus mainly on GUI improvements. Please see this article for our initial thoughts on redesigning the admin interface : http://ez.no/community/news/the_administration_interface_project Feedback from the community is much appreciated. -- Kåre Høvik Kåre Høvik
Gregory Woolf	Wednesday 09 June 2004 8:24:20 pm I personally think that ezSystem has a good product. I have been a web developer for over 3 years and have found ezPublish to be quite robust. That said, I think what this product needs is a quick "here's how to modify the templates" tutorial followed by a "here's how the whole thing works" tutorial. I think that as users of this product see it look the way they want they will then understand how it can be used for their purposes. Does this make sense? G

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Wednesday 19 May 2004 5:03:32 am

Hi all

I have been trialling ezPublish now for a couple of weeks and I am beginning to understand it, and I am very impressed with the product. I am looking for a cms of this type that I can hopefully sell to my clients.

Now here is what I can not understand: I have been a web developer for about 6-7 years now and have a fairly good understanding of these types of things, HOWEVER, if I roll this out for a client to manage their website they are going to get lost within 10 seconds. From what I can see, ezPublish is not a system for a novice or a beginner of any sort.

So, is it me? Am I missing something crucial here, or does ezPublish require an experienced person to support a website running this product? If this is the case does anyone have any simpler alternatives for a cms that the average client could learn and use??

regards
mc

Kåre Køhler Høvik

Wednesday 19 May 2004 6:40:38 am

We know the admin interface in eZ publish can have a steep learning curve, and we're working on the problem. For the 3.5 release we're going to focus mainly on GUI improvements. Please see this article for our initial thoughts on redesigning the admin interface : http://ez.no/community/news/the_administration_interface_project

Feedback from the community is much appreciated.

--
Kåre Høvik

Kåre Høvik

Gregory Woolf

Wednesday 09 June 2004 8:24:20 pm

I personally think that ezSystem has a good product. I have been a web developer for over 3 years and have found ezPublish to be quite robust. That said, I think what this product needs is a quick "here's how to modify the templates" tutorial followed by a "here's how the whole thing works" tutorial. I think that as users of this product see it look the way they want they will then understand how it can be used for their purposes.

Does this make sense?

eZ debug

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Ini load
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Check MTime	0.0012	0.1511	16	0.0001
Mysql Total
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states
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Override
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Sytem overhead
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Fetch class attribute name	0.0012	0.1446	4	0.0003
XML
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class_abstraction
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General
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5	content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/paragraph.tpl	<No override>	extension/ezwebin/design/ezwebin/templates/content/datatype/view/ezxmltags/paragraph.tpl
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1	print_pagelayout.tpl	<No override>	extension/community/design/community/templates/print_pagelayout.tpl
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Time used to render debug report: 0.0001 secs