New Project Section on ez.no

Author Message

Paul Borgermans

Tuesday 18 July 2006 9:08:23 am

Hi Paul, You're back on-line finally ;-)

Indeed, we agreed to make someting available on pubsvn based on what we have here (typical project management tools, action lists, bug reporting, forums, file sharing, the most powerful search plugin in te world ....

But it is holiday period, Kristof and I will both be back at the beginning of august.

Cheers

Paul

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Paul Borgermans

Tuesday 18 July 2006 9:45:40 am

<i>But it is holiday period, Kristof and I will both be back at the beginning of august.</i>

With that I mean with full physical access to our server park ... being on-line is only ... an addiction

-paul

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Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 19 July 2006 1:12:37 am

Hi Paul,

Just back from holidays myself :)

Sounds good. I hope svn will be included :)

It would be very nice if the project system was in svn itself to allow it to evolve.

Since this work is in your hands does this infer that eZ systems will not be working on developing the system with you at least for the first version?

How long before something goes online? Post-holidays of course ;)

Paul

Paul Borgermans

Wednesday 19 July 2006 3:54:28 am

Hi Paul

svn will be supported through a workflow, but with a manual step involving a bit of QA, and approval. The current idea is to keep the same idea about write access as it is now (write access to all of the community repository), but this may become a bit more restricted if there is a need for.

And the entire site will be in svn as well, that's standard practise here :-)) It will of course contain a few extensions and patches as well. Will be 3.8.x based. Read/write access to that part will be restricted to a group of maintainers (with at least Lukasz as one of the ez guys in this group)

Regards

Paul

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Kristof Coomans

Wednesday 09 August 2006 4:41:58 am

A small update on this topic:

SVN integration has been implemented. Each project can have it's own SVN repository, with only read access for anonymous users and write access for project members. The user accounts of the eZ publish site are also used for the SVN repositories.

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Niklas Gunnäs

Wednesday 09 August 2006 7:50:09 am

Sounds great,

I cant wait for it to be released :-)

Have you any ideas when it will be ready for testing/downloading?

Regards

Niklas

Paul Borgermans

Wednesday 09 August 2006 8:25:02 am

Hi Niklas,

No guarantees, but a first preview version could be ready by the end of this month. We also eat our own dogfood (the projects site is one of the hosted projects) ... which generally helps advancing and maturing.

It will contain also use some nifty extensions like the Lucene based search plugin along with the dedicated extensions our ezp wizard Kristof made for this.

--paul

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Kristof Coomans

Friday 08 September 2006 2:24:52 am

We'd like to give the community a preview of this: http://pubsvn.ez.no/projects/

After logging in you can make your own project. There's an approval workflow involved so I recommend you to enable the approval collaboration notifications at http://pubsvn.ez.no/projects/notification/settings.

Note that all projects registered on this demo site will be deleted, so only use it for testing please!

It's far from ready so don't expect everything to work as it should :-) Some functionality we had in mind will only work on eZ publish 3.9. We currently focused on the integration with SVN, and that seems to work pretty well so far.

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Paul Forsyth

Friday 08 September 2006 2:45:01 am

Hi Kristoff,

Its a good start. I created a test project which i assume is in a workflow somewhere :)

Could the project system be self hosting?

Paul

Niklas Gunnäs

Friday 08 September 2006 4:22:01 am

Very nice :-)

If you have time. What functionality are planed to be implemented with 3.9?

/Niklas

Kristof Coomans

Saturday 09 September 2006 12:38:59 am

Hello Niklas

The section editing workflow event based on the access type you selected (<i>Accessible by</i>) will need eZ 3.9.

I'd like to have some clarity from eZ systems on the usage of our application:
- Will our system replace the old pubsvn community repository
or
- will eZ systems use our application on ez.no (with svn repositories on ez.no or on pubsvn.ez.no)
or
- will eZ systems do something on ez.no with an application of their own?

The community won't be better off if we have 2 complete applications in paralel for the same purpose. What I've build so far is of course useable at the SCK for our own projects so in either case it won't be work for nothing.

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Niklas Gunnäs

Wednesday 13 September 2006 2:23:17 am

Hi Kristof,

A version to download is not to be expected before 3.9 is released, then?

Is there any way I could help out?

We have made a simple projectmanager at our Intranet. It dont have your workflow functions but maybe the design could be of some value, or maybe not :-)

I could send some pictures of the design if you mail me - niklas at infos dot se.

/Niklas

Kristof Coomans

Wednesday 13 September 2006 5:46:18 am

Hi Niklas

http://pubsvn.ez.no/projects/plain_site_user/ezprojects/subversion (warning: still contains some hardcoded id's)

Any help is welcome. I'll send you a mail.

It seems so quiet on the eZ systems' side, did they fell asleep? :-)

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Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 13 September 2006 6:13:33 am

Hi Kristof,

Could you publish your designs and plans for this site? Im not sure what to help with to be honest.

Paul

Kristof Coomans

Wednesday 13 September 2006 6:28:14 am

Hi Paul

I know our way of working is quite chaotic at the moment, that's why we definitely need the projects site :-)

I published a document with some details at http://pubsvn.ez.no/projects/plain_site_user/ezprojects/files

I'll upload the necessary class packages there too. Then you can test the solution and give us any remarks you have.

I will also publish a forum for this project on the demo site so it's easier to keep track of any related discussions.

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Paul Forsyth

Wednesday 13 September 2006 6:40:18 am

Thanks Kristof,

When i visited the files area I didnt see anything but clicking on the 'files' menu then showed the 'implementation details' file!

Printing off doc now. I'll read and get back to this thread tomorrow.

Keeping the discussions on the project site is a good idea, imho. Keeping it self-hosted as much as possible will greatly help development.

Btw, how are you handling the cache. Is it all turned off for development? If not how would a developer get the cache cleared? :)

Paul

Kristof Coomans

Thursday 14 September 2006 12:50:57 am

When i visited the files area I didnt see anything but clicking on the 'files' menu then showed the 'implementation details' file!

It's a design issue, the current template does not show any children.

Keeping the discussions on the project site is a good idea, imho. Keeping it self-hosted as much as possible will greatly help development.

Btw, how are you handling the cache. Is it all turned off for development? If not how would a developer get the cache cleared? :)

It was not my intention to let the contributors work on the demo site. They can just checkout the code and use it on a local eZ publish installation.

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Paul Forsyth

Friday 15 September 2006 3:52:21 am

Hi Kristof,

I've had a read of your document and looking through the svn there is a lot of work to do before the site is usable with all features.

If eZ are collaborating can we use their current bug system, or perhaps integrate with their new system? Are eZ developing their own system?

From your last comment Im not sure if you need help to develop the system. How would you like this to proceed?

Paul

Kristof Coomans

Friday 15 September 2006 5:07:57 am

I've had a read of your document and looking through the svn there is a lot of work to do before the site is usable with all features.

We can start with some features (subversion, forums, files) and add others later.

If eZ are collaborating can we use their current bug system, or perhaps integrate with their new system? Are eZ developing their own system?

I have no idea what they think about it and if they have made a decision. I mailed Sandro and Lukasz a few days ago but did not get any response so far.

From your last comment Im not sure if you need help to develop the system. How would you like this to proceed?

We will give access to our project (svn repository etc.) to people who want to contribute. We can discuss development details on the project forums. As soon as new code in the repository can be considered stable then I'll update the demo site with it.

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Paul Forsyth

Friday 15 September 2006 7:54:09 am

Thanks,

It would be good for eZ if they could clarify what their participation will be. I had assumed it had been decided upon at the conference.

I see from the ezinfo output the site is running 3.8.3. I'll try to setup locally over the weekend.

I've started to post on the development forum:

http://pubsvn.ez.no/projects/plain_site_user/ezprojects/forums/development

Paul

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